The chapter 16 of Kate "McCann" 's book, "madeleine" without an initial capital M, is titled, to my great amusement, Fantasy Land.
To me the whole case could be called this way too. Alas for one exception: what became of the Child Madeleine Beth McCann. I doubt that this little girl had often been in fantasy land before that fateful holiday, and certainly isn't now, unless angels / or as her mother claims, the abductor, "treat her like a princess, with fairness and respect, blah...
In this short extract we come to find out, among a few interesting other points, how a witness claims to have seen the McCanns carrying a big black bag. It's curious as I never read any statement of the sort in the files, but then again I never got the leisure, unlike Kate, to spend a solid 6 months of my life to scrutinise these police documents - although I can do my bit of research. I would appreciate if she, since she calls herself an Author, didn't content herself with providing snippets of the sort, that don't specify either the date, or the time, the place, etc. I have searched for long and found only one witnessing which is published a bit further below.
Kate obviously hasn't got a good literacy background otherwise she would know about referencing. If you quote someone, even without naming them, then you need to provide in your annexe of references the details about it. The lack of documentation regarding all she states about the case and the PJ is deplorable, it's supposed to be a book about the case, yet, there is no solid reference or reproduced scan! Kate surely didn't care to look at Harward Referencing, even to write a book, but is that surprising?!
Here is the extract in question:
"A
witness claimed to have seen Gerry and me carrying a big black bag and acting
suspiciously. This was absolute nonsense, but ‘evidence’ of this kind came down
to one person’s word against another. And it appeared that, as far
as the PJ were concerned, our word counted for little.
‘If you were
Portuguese,’ Carlos said with an air of resignation, ‘this would be enough to
put you in prison.’
The only conclusion I could draw was that we’d been
framed, though this seemed completely implausible. Faced with something like
this, way beyond the sphere of your experience, it is natural to dismiss it as
impossible, but that doesn’t mean it is. When I thought about all that had
happened so far, maybe anything was possible. In any event, it seemed we’d
underestimated the magnitude of the fight we had on our hands. Even our own
lawyer appeared to think, based on what he’d been told, that the police had a
good case against us. I could see by this time that Gerry was starting to crack.
Then came the best
bit. Carlos announced what the police had proposed. If we, or rather I,
admitted that Madeleine had died in an accident in the apartment, and confessed
to having hidden and disposed of her body, the sentence I’d receive would be
much more lenient: only two years, he said, as opposed to what I’d be looking at
if I ended up being charged with homicide.
Pardon? I really wasn’t sure if I
could possibly have heard him correctly. My incredulity turned to rage. How dare they suggest I lie? How
dare they expect me to live with such a charge against my name? And even more importantly, did they really expect me
to confess to a crime they had made up, to falsely claim to the whole world that
my daughter was dead, when the result would be that the whole world stopped
looking for her? This police tactic might have worked successfully in the past
but it certainly wasn’t going to work with me. Over my dead body. ‘You need to
think about it,’ Carlos insisted. ‘It would only be one of you. Gerry could go
back to work.’
I was speechless.
The incentive to accept this ‘offer’
seemed to be that if we didn’t agree to it, the authorities could or would go
after us for murder, and if we were found guilty, we might both receive life
sentences. Was this what it came down to? Confess to this lesser charge
or risk something much worse?
Gerry was
distraught now. He was on his knees, sobbing, his head hung low. ‘We’re
finished. Our life is over,’ he kept saying over and over again. The
realization that we were at the mercy of an incomprehensible criminal justice
system had hit him hard. It was excruciating to see him like this. I love him so
much and he is usually so strong. I was very conscious that my response was
different. Maybe I should have been on my knees, too. Why wasn’t I crying? Was
my behaviour making me look cold or guilty? Again, my only explanation is that
it was beyond comprehension. I might as well
have been a character in a soap opera. Any time now the director would call
‘Cut!’ and this scene would be over. Even today, I struggle to believe it
actually took place.
There was a phrase Carlos must have used about twenty
times: ‘This is the point of no return.’ I could feel myself shaking."
~~~~~~
Excerpt that precedes the one above:
"Carlos still looked very concerned. There was a great deal we needed to
discuss, he told us. He reiterated that the situation was not good. The PJ had a
lot of ‘evidence’ against us, and I was certain to be made an arguida in the
morning.
First he cited video footage the police had shot of the reactions
of the blood and cadaver dogs in apartment 5A and also around our hire car. I
would be shown this on my return to the police station, he said. Presumably
repeating what he had been told by the PJ, he explained how samples from both
these sites had revealed Madeleine’s blood and one of them indicated a 15 out of
19 match with her DNA.
I was totally perplexed. Although this news, if true,
seemed to add weight to the possibility that Madeleine had at the very least
been physically harmed, unusually I didn’t dwell
too much on the frightening implications. I can only assume this was because
what we were being told didn’t make sense. If, as the PJ alleged, Madeleine’s
blood was in the boot of our car, which we had not rented until 27 May, how on
earth had it got there? Did this mean someone had planted it? I could see no other explanation. The police theory, it
seemed, was that we had hidden Madeleine’s body, then moved it later, in the
car, and buried it elsewhere.
Next
came the matter of a crumpled page the police said they had discovered in my
borrowed Bible. It seemed this was felt to be highly significant because the
passage on that page, in II Samuel 12, dealt with the death of a child. I knew
nothing about any pages being crumpled, let alone in which part of the Bible.
The fact that I had asked to see a priest on the night of Madeleine’s
disappearance was also seen as evidence of guilt. What? I was beginning to find
my credulity stretched to breaking point. ‘Don’t people in Portugal talk to
priests in times of need?’ I asked Carlos. Apparently not. They only called for
a priest when they wanted their sins to be forgiven. Good grief. This was
definitely not the faith with which I was familiar."
~~~
Apart from this potentially intriguing witnessing, which if juxtaposed to Kate's own two massive slip-ups that point down to the 9pm time on the 3rd May 2007 night (see link) becomes mightily interesting, we can also note an outstanding choice of words. So the PJ would have said "BURIED"? Wow, somehow I doubt it. Why would highly trained detectives in a police force say this word in particular? Out of the hundreds of possibilities to conceal or dispose of a body - especially if temporarily - why would the "BURIED" option pop out?
So perhaps this is yet again another slip-up, or a clue. Perhaps in the end, Maddy's body was buried somewhere, after all.
Here is all I can find regarding a witnessing of two people carrying something like a bag. Note, the alledged event has TWO very different versions, one witness correcting the other (both friends). The first version is in black font, highlighted.
The man, according to the first lady's reporting of the other's, was of some undescribed sort of nationality, but the lady with him, 'for sure', was, at first, Portuguese... The COLOUR of the 'bundle' isn't specified, so if Kate has based herself on this, not only she would be very bad at disguising as a Portuguese woman, since, ah ah, she STILL got recognised, and secondly, how did she know that the 'bag' was "BLACK"?
But hang on...
Worse, if she really means this apparently ONLY witnessing that is available in the files, (or please comment to provide a link), she clearly NAMES then, herself as the lady, and Gerry as the man!
-Unless I'm proven otherwise, because my search has been extensive, it well seems that once again, Kate has landed herself in it. ;) FULL REPORT:
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SERVICE_INFORMATION.htm
"2967 to 2968 or 25 to 26- Service information re suspicious sighting
in Praia da Luz
2969 to 2970 or 27 to 28 Email re sighting in Praia da Luz
[English] 05 14 pensos V Vol XIV 2967-2970.
14_volume_XIV_apenso_V_2967-25
14_volume_XIV_apenso_V_2968-26
14_volume_XIV_apenso_V_2969-27
14_volume_XIV_apenso_V_2970-28
Service Information
Date: 2008-05-02
To: The Head of the
Criminal Investigation
From: Inspector Joao Carlos
Subject:
Supposed sighting
According to the results of the previous information,
received by email we can infer that this was a third party intervention, in
other words, the person who reported the sighting was not the person who saw it.
Patricia Grainger alleged that her friend Rosemary Walley who lives in Portugal,
concretely in Praia da Luz at about 8 -10 minutes from the apartment Madeleine
disappeared from. According to Grainger, her friend Walley, on the night of the
disappearance or on the following morning, she does not make this clear, when
she was in her garden, supposedly facing the room, she saw a man wearing a
sports jacket carrying a rucksack/bag. He was accompanied by a Portuguese woman
(it is not clear how she deduced the nationality). The couple got into a mini
van and left the scene.
The information is laconical, imprecise and
quite vague, there is no reference to the British child or to any other child.
Once we got hold of Rosemary Walley's telephone number and when we spoke to her
and told her the reason for our phone call she was speechless. She said that she
did not know anything about the disappearance nor about the sighting, saying
that the information provided by her friend was fictitious or a
misunderstanding. She added that she had told her friend that on the night of
the disappearance she saw a man and a woman, the former was carrying a golf bag
on his shoulder and that she said this bag, in jocular terms and out of pure
derision be linked to the missing girl. That it was a joke made in bad taste as
she did not see anything that could conclude or infer this sense, it was a
normal couple, nothing more.
With no more to report
Inspector Joao
Carlos
Pages 2969 - 2970 are in English:
Fax from Inspector
Paiva
To: Joao Silva Pereira
Date 2nd May 2008
Importance: High.
From: DIC Portimao
To: Inspector Paiva
Date: 2nd May 2008
Importance: High
Fax
From DC
John Hughes
To: DIC Portimao
Date: 2nd May 2008
CC.
Graham Michael
Importance : High
A new possible sighting on the
night of 3rd May 2007. Please advise if further enquiries needed here.
DC John Hughes
From: Southan, Daniel
Sent: 2nd May 2008
To: Task
Subject: Madeleine McCann
We have received
information from Patricia Grainger regarding a possible sighting of Madeleine on
the night she disappeared.
Grainger states she has a friend who lives in
Portugal named Rosemary Walley. Walley lives about 8 - 10 minutes walk from the
apartments Madeleine disappeared from.
Walley told Grainger that on the
night in question she was sitting in her garden in the early hours of the
morning (Grainger can be no more specific about the time), when she saw a male
in a sport coat and flannels carrying a bundle, he was with a Portuguese female.
Grainger can offer no further description as she did not witness these events.
The male and female got into a people carrier and drove away.
Grainger was told this information some time ago but Walley did not wish to
report this to the police either here or in Portugal. Grainger states that her
conscience got the better of her and she decided to call the police herself and
give this information. It is recorded as West Mercia incident log 208 - s -
010508. Both Walley and Grainger are elderly aged in their 70s.
Grainger
lives at **** Worcs.
Walley has two addresses, her address in England is
*** Worcs.
Her address in Portugal is:
Casa Clung, Caixa 401z,
Praia da Luz
Walley is currently at her address in Portugal and is
unaware that Grainger has called in with this information. Grainger thinks
Walley will fall out with her if or when the police make contact with her over
this.
Grainger is more than willing to speak with you if you wish to
contact her.
Regards
Dan Southan "
Strangio, no? But after all, we are in Fantasy Land...
Addition from The Daily Mail, UK:
The police also had a witness who claimed to have seen Mr and Mrs McCann carrying a big black bag and acting suspiciously.Mrs McCann says their lawyer warned them: ‘If you were Portuguese, this would be enough to put you in prison.’
The McCanns said they were treated appallingly even before they were made ‘arguidos’ – suspects – in September 2007.
In light that they did not get charged for neglect they got off lightly
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1385336/Kate-McCann-Madeleine-guilt-meant-I-make-love-Gerry.html
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Apart from what you have already found there is one other reference to a ‘navy blue or black duffle bag or backpack.’ This was a statement written by Sunny Burtness-Altman who believed she saw Madeleine on the beach. Her statement description is of the man who was apparently accompanying her and another child. I don’t think this is what Kate McCann was alluding to though.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ASSORTED_SIGHTINGS_11.htm
"I snapped a photo from very far away as well. He was around 6' 1", he was thin wearing round eyeglasses and had mousy brown hair. He was wearing a white ball cap, he was carrying a navy blue or black duffle bag or backpack."
Sunny Burtness-Altman
It could be me, but I don’t think Kate is suggesting the “A witness claimed to have seen Gerry and me carrying a big black bag and acting suspiciously” information is from the police files or witness statements, but that these are the words of Carlos Pinto de Abreu who was speaking with her (in private) once they returned to their apartment after the police interview was over.
It seems Kate is suggesting that the PJ were trying to trip her up by offering information that, perhaps, didn’t exist – but considering the words are being relayed by their own Portuguese lawyer then that suggests that he was in cahoots too! I find all this ‘everyone’s against us’ business a bit too much....the PJ, the chief, the Portuguese legal system, their Portuguese lawyer, the dogs, British police, Pamela Fenn...the list seems endless and seems to be growing.
Kate's lawyer was offering her professional advice, the evidence against you is strong, if you confess now, you may only get two years.
ReplyDeleteWhen Kate says that "indirectly" came from the Police it is to cover a deliberate lie. True she may have been confused at the time, but she surely realises the reality now, her lawyer was actually trying to help her in line with his professional duty to do the very best to assist a client including of course when there is evidence against them. In UK it is customary for defence solicitors to have a chat with the police and find out how strong the police evidence is, I am sure that is what Kate's Pt lawyer did. I agree with the poster above, Kate has a persecution complex, particularly in relation to the police, but there again that is perfectly understandable in her position. Putting it at its best, she failed to protect Madeleine from serious harm which she has clearly suffered. But in this book she lays it all out for the world to see. Wise move? I hardly think so, but do think she has a serious mental health problem and perhaps she feels now the police are really closing in, as her mother puts it, Kate needs to tell her side of the story. Gerry may well tell a very different one.,
By the way I like the title of your blog, so long as the marketing ploy is lost, Gerry can keep on marketing and had visions of 20 years I think. That maybe more a figure the Judge will have in mind.
ReplyDeleteI often wonder if he strings Kate along by saying do as you are told (his body language certainly tells her that if she strays off course in interviews)and I will try and get her back for you. Or does he just say, you are mad, I will make sure you go down for killing her? Maybe Kate thinks Gerry instructed her lawyer and that is why she cannot trust him either.
Great post this is a house of cards held together by political will rather than logic
ReplyDeleteWhere does Kate mention "buried"? I didn't see that word mentioned in the excerpt from the book in your blog?
ReplyDeleteHi all and thanks for your comments!
ReplyDeleteThank you Sasha for the link, I am really puzzled about this, perhaps it's just an invention she inserted from the later 'sports bag theory' as to have a little laugh for herself - like any mad person would do- and to complicate things, once again. She gives clues in her book as to wait for further 'theories' that she shows she avidly read on the net. Lol, no wonders she was going to bed at 2 am. Was the fund also paying for staff to take care of the twins in the morning, bring them to kids club/ school? Or she mustn't have been very fresh and awake to drive them there herself... or were they waking up and do what they want until Mummy has slept her 8 or 9 hours?
Anyway I will carry on searching on that, at my times. Ty!
Viv thank you and about the blog title too. The coloboma EX marketing ploy has been abducted by the McCanns! Kate's mental frame is certainly intriguing, when I read the book at times I was feeling uncomfortable and leaving it for a while, with the feeling I would go mental if I didn't take a break! My eyes were exhorbiting at chapter 7 and others.
Anonymous "1", yes your image is spot-on. This sums the case pretty well.
Anonymous "2", yes the word is in the book, I do NOT invent anything, unlike some I am a honest person - and by the way, there wouldn't be any need to invent anything with Kate, it's all there with the weirdo details!!! -Please Sasha can you confirm? -sorry to ask you to re-read "Fantasy land"... ;)
Ah, to "Anonymous 2", yes sorry I have re-read my extract and realised I had 'snapt' it from my pre-post as it was a bit long. I will now add it to the post. Thanks for letting me know and for your visit, come again, ;-}
ReplyDeleteJane Tanner looks portuguese enough...
ReplyDeleteLol!!! The Pt Joconda. Bit heavy on Sardines Mayo and Port'. The Rachael looks well Portuguese doesn't she?
ReplyDeleteKATE MCCANN ! Why dont you and your MONEY THINKING , MONEY MAKING , MARKETING £££££££££ HUSBAND " ADMIT " what happened. We are so sick of you making cash from your dead child. You really are a sick deranged mad woman Kate McCann and your book is disgusting and full of lies. You both have now topped Myra Hindley and Ian Brady in the child abuse crimes. You are a disgusting piece of shit. STOP making cash ££££££££££ from Madeleines death for your LTD COMPANY COS THE FUND IS A REG COMPANY ............. WHY ??? Please explain why its a company and not a fund and you tell the public its a fund ??? why are you lying to the public ? you should be put behind bars and slowly but surely that day will come. You are disgusting. GO AWAY enjoy what freedom you have left ...... for now.
ReplyDeletehttp://littlemorsals.blogspot.com/2009/09/gerry-mccann-and-blue-tennis-bag.html
ReplyDeleteBlue/black bag